The article originated from a blog posted by Chris Boardman, managing director of BAE's military air and information division, on the company's internal website. Knowing how deeply sensit...ive Siemens are about publicity and the confidential and exploratory nature of the discussions, the post appears exceptionally naive. The reference to the Siemens talks was bound to become public rapidly, given that 900 workers at Brough are under threat of redundancy and there is intense media interest in both the future of Brough and the Siemens plans.
BAE are now seeking to play down the matter but have said Siemens were "keen to explore various opportunities with BAE Systems". Characteristically, German giant Siemens were said to be "unavailable for comment" - for that, read not prepared to say anything at all about what they may or may not be planning to do in Hull, Brough, or anywhere else, for that matter.
The Hull Daily Mail quotes Gareth Russell, business development manager at Associated British Ports in Hull. ABP are the landowners of the Alexandra Dock site in east Hull, which Siemens had selected as their preferred location for an offshore wind turbine manufacturing plant. Siemens signed a Memorandum of Understanding for the development, but this has since expired.
Mr Russell stresses that ABP's discussions with Siemens over Alexandra Dock remain "on track". He has voiced scepticism about the possibility of Siemens switching the plant to the Brough site, which also has a Humber riverside location, mentioning issues over the depth of the water at that point.
I suspect that nobody outside the most senior executives at Siemens really knows what their thinking is. It has become apparent that Siemens are, absolutely understandably, driving a hard bargain and that the Government has been somewhat deficient in courting the German investors. However, Hull's MPs and Hull City Council are doing everything possible to seal the Siemens deal and the Government, from David Cameron down, have belatedly voiced strong commitment to making it happen.
As Editor of the Hull Daily Mail until recently I was briefed regularly on the Siemens situation, so I'm a reasonably informed observer. My reading of the situation is that it remains highly likely that Siemens will commit to a manufacturing facility at Alexandra Dock. The Humber is the best location for the plant and Alexandra Dock is the best site, with the smoothest planning process, enabling it to be developed for production of turbines by 2014.
I cannot believe that, at this stage, Siemens would consider an alternative site, further up the Humber estuary.
It would also be deeply embarrassing if Siemens scrapped their Hull plans. The Government would take the heat, and face accusations of failing to support manufacturing employment in the UK, following the proposed mass redundancies at BAE.
My informed guess is that Siemens have been encouraged to initiate discussions with BAE about transferrable skills among the Brough workforce, perhaps by Government officials keen to do something positive to take the sting out of the loss of hundreds of skilled manufacturing jobs.
If that is the context, fair enough, provided such discussions are not allowed to undermine the battle to maintain Brough as a manufacturing facility - a campaign championed by the Hull Daily Mail.
And then there is the challenge of time. The Brough workers could be thrown on the scrapheap as early as the new year. It simply must not be allowed to happen, but the current BAE plans foresee a shutdown of aircraft manufacturing at Brough in 2012. Jettisoned workers will need to find alternative employment - difficult though that will be given the stalled economy and rising unemployment.
The fear is that the BAE workers will be condemned to unemployment or jobs not employing their skills, in the short to medium term. They have mortgages to pay and families to feed. They can't wait around for two years for jobs with Siemens to come to their rescue.
Despite the intriguing Hull Daily Mail report and continuing rumours over Siemens, my view is that nothing has changed. Local and regional leaders should continue to pursue a twin-track strategy - supporting the Battle for Brough and lobbying to secure confirmation of the Siemens investment. The regional economy needs both BAE Systems and Siemens, rather than one for the other, or God forbid, neither.
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Siemens-talks-future-BAE-Brough-site-workforce/story-13598152-detail/story.html
BAE are now seeking to play down the matter but have said Siemens were "keen to explore various opportunities with BAE Systems". Characteristically, German giant Siemens were said to be "unavailable for comment" - for that, read not prepared to say anything at all about what they may or may not be planning to do in Hull, Brough, or anywhere else, for that matter.
The Hull Daily Mail quotes Gareth Russell, business development manager at Associated British Ports in Hull. ABP are the landowners of the Alexandra Dock site in east Hull, which Siemens had selected as their preferred location for an offshore wind turbine manufacturing plant. Siemens signed a Memorandum of Understanding for the development, but this has since expired.
Mr Russell stresses that ABP's discussions with Siemens over Alexandra Dock remain "on track". He has voiced scepticism about the possibility of Siemens switching the plant to the Brough site, which also has a Humber riverside location, mentioning issues over the depth of the water at that point.
I suspect that nobody outside the most senior executives at Siemens really knows what their thinking is. It has become apparent that Siemens are, absolutely understandably, driving a hard bargain and that the Government has been somewhat deficient in courting the German investors. However, Hull's MPs and Hull City Council are doing everything possible to seal the Siemens deal and the Government, from David Cameron down, have belatedly voiced strong commitment to making it happen.
As Editor of the Hull Daily Mail until recently I was briefed regularly on the Siemens situation, so I'm a reasonably informed observer. My reading of the situation is that it remains highly likely that Siemens will commit to a manufacturing facility at Alexandra Dock. The Humber is the best location for the plant and Alexandra Dock is the best site, with the smoothest planning process, enabling it to be developed for production of turbines by 2014.
I cannot believe that, at this stage, Siemens would consider an alternative site, further up the Humber estuary.
It would also be deeply embarrassing if Siemens scrapped their Hull plans. The Government would take the heat, and face accusations of failing to support manufacturing employment in the UK, following the proposed mass redundancies at BAE.
My informed guess is that Siemens have been encouraged to initiate discussions with BAE about transferrable skills among the Brough workforce, perhaps by Government officials keen to do something positive to take the sting out of the loss of hundreds of skilled manufacturing jobs.
If that is the context, fair enough, provided such discussions are not allowed to undermine the battle to maintain Brough as a manufacturing facility - a campaign championed by the Hull Daily Mail.
And then there is the challenge of time. The Brough workers could be thrown on the scrapheap as early as the new year. It simply must not be allowed to happen, but the current BAE plans foresee a shutdown of aircraft manufacturing at Brough in 2012. Jettisoned workers will need to find alternative employment - difficult though that will be given the stalled economy and rising unemployment.
The fear is that the BAE workers will be condemned to unemployment or jobs not employing their skills, in the short to medium term. They have mortgages to pay and families to feed. They can't wait around for two years for jobs with Siemens to come to their rescue.
Despite the intriguing Hull Daily Mail report and continuing rumours over Siemens, my view is that nothing has changed. Local and regional leaders should continue to pursue a twin-track strategy - supporting the Battle for Brough and lobbying to secure confirmation of the Siemens investment. The regional economy needs both BAE Systems and Siemens, rather than one for the other, or God forbid, neither.
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Siemens-talks-future-BAE-Brough-site-workforce/story-13598152-detail/story.html
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